If you ask me, I think that by having this attitude we were challenging the coloniality of knowledge. [...] Because I was able to see, to learn from the experience of those lesbian women. [...] I’ve been writing for a long time, but I never realized the potential of writing myself fully. [...] The text seemed to be about beauty, but it had nuances about issues of gender, of race, of class. And for the first time in a text I wrote all of myself. [...] I am especially interested in your use of the term “gender racism”. I wanted to hear more about it. [...] The idea of coloniality is productive because it allows us to see and question the living legacies of colonialism. But it can also be a bit frustrating. [...] I think the frustration starts when we begin to see how various forms of coloniality intertwine with one another to feed the entire machinery. [...] These questions will continue to exist, and I think they are obviously part of the process of decolonization. [...] I think it’s a very difficult path, but I think that walking this path through the arts gives us the tools to think inclusively, to consider other forms of society. [...] And I say the arts because it’s a medium that has saved me.
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